The Clean Panty Thread Vol. 1

I'm sorry to hear your news too, Alice. That job certainly wasn't meant to be, eh? You are meant to be doing something else, something more fulfillling.

Obama is incompetent when it comes to the military. Thus why he can't make a decision and avoids them as long as he can. He has no respect from the armed forces from what I have heard from friends in the military who hate that he is their Commander In Chief. They have vowed to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, even if that includes the Prez. Kind of interesting when you think about it. Despite one's political beliefs, at least the military respected Bush and knew he had their back. I feel for those in the military right now. They are between a rock and a hard place.

It's a political stance thing. The liberals tend to be against military actions, which is what Obama is supposed to be, and the conservatives tend to be for military actions. I really thought US troops would all be coming home within a year of Obama taking office. I'm really surprised he hasn't pulled them all back or make serious exit strategies.

That other post was sarcasm, Nay. You have sarcasm where you live?

Yes, Dallas, we have many domestic enemies, some of whom hold very high offices.

Nay, I'd love to hear some Aussie sarcasm.

Me, too!

Wars result in losers all around. Strategic onquest and utter subjugation is how you get things to change.

I'm trying to enjoy pre-Christmas but it's not working.

Nay wrote:

PJ! How's the patient?

Thanks for asking, Nay, when I finish singing I Am Women for the "thousanth" time, I'll let you know. When does that start working?

Dallas wrote:

Obama is incompetent when it comes to the military. Thus why he can't make a decision and avoids them as long as he can. He has no respect from the armed forces from what I have heard from friends in the military who hate that he is their Commander In Chief. They have vowed to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, even if that includes the Prez. Kind of interesting when you think about it. Despite one's political beliefs, at least the military respected Bush and knew he had their back. I feel for those in the military right now. They are between a rock and a hard place.

I really hate that this thread has gone political. I was SOOO hoping it wouldn't, but now that it has..... I have to add my two cents.

a. Not everyone (military or otherwise) truly feels Bush had the military's backs (although, I'm sure in his mind he did)
b. The U.S. Armed Forces don't think as one collective unit that all have has the same political beliefs.

I agree with your points. My point (which probably could have been clearer) was to recount what I have heard first-hand through friends in the military. I thought it was an interesting point of view. It is just their point of view, however, and is clearly not representative of all view points.
Regardless, I think that military objectives should not be guided by political objectives - unless we want another Vietnam and our military sacrificing themselves and their lives to take a hill or area(as in Vietnam) only then to be told by bureaucrats to cease and retreat even if it goes against overall military strategy.
If we are going to commit our military to battle, then the military experts etc. should determine strategy, not politicians or public opinion which has limited military intelligence. Again, JMO, and part of the reason Vietnam was such an unpopular war (and considered by many to be a military failure).
In any event, prayers and support is needed for the military during this war, as long as we chose to engage in it.
Sorry for the political bent to this thread, but I wanted to clarify my previous post which was a response to Nay's question.

that actually made me laugh out loud, nay! thank you!

ooooo, those were good! I love the "will I see kangaroo" question.

Yes, I did notice, and do realize that there are some dumb Americans. I had that experience first hand when I went to London in 2000 with a bunch of college kids. Oh dear....

Nay wrote:

Australian snakes are perfectly harmless, can be safely handled and make good pets.

See that, Sheila? Just go outside and pick up and pet those brown snakes. Steve Irwin (RIP) lied on his show about deadly snakes.

Didn't you post those Q&A's somewhere on this forum before? I've read them here before.

Those don't feel like Australian sarcasm. Just regular sarcasm.

As far as stupidity goes, think about this: half of the population of the world belongs in the below average half.

Now, where do I get me one of those Drop Bears?

When I have about US$10,000.00 to throw away I'll consider it. Long flights aren't my thing either. I have a hard enough time with 4-hour flights I don't think I can manage 14 without losing the rest of my sanity.

Put the Drop Bear in a box and drop it my way.

Nay wrote:

Visit Australia and I'll arrange for a Drop Bear, Julie.

No one has posted all day????

I tried to get on the Pantry during my lunch hour at work today, only to discover the stupid company firewall has blocked it!

Grrrrrr....

Well I can't speak for anyone else, but I've been busy with last minute prep for Christmas and travel.

That, and I had to frantically clean up all the wine and alcohol bottles all over Gerry's apartment before he returned (earlier than planned) and busted me for having a party at his place while he was gone. You can only blame so much on the dog.....

Luckily, my ninja skillls saved me and I was out and back in Texas before his key hit the lock.

I was doing Chrismassy stuff too.

Blame Gman, he's not doing anything either..lol!

I only have one question: why was I not invited to this party?

There was a party?