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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:50 pm

Julie talks like she's done this before. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:48 pm

kayanne wrote:
There is a part of me that thinks this is the image he and his management team want him to have.
His reputation is something that several of us have discussed many times over the past four years. But I haven't (before last year) thought it was a planned strategy, more a spiralling out of control persona and ego or serious health issues. In normal circles, if someone was acting this way or reported to be acting this way, their reputation would be ruined. I'm not basing that judgement on a port-a-potty rumour/sighting at a music festival - take it back as far as the violin player ... or even further.

It's just getting pitiful.
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:47 am

I'm with you, Nay. The disappointment is NOT based on one incident alone. The funny/sad thing is all the excuses that are made for this behavior, too. Most of G's fans would be appalled if someone they knew in their "real" life acted in these fashions. Kinda heartbreaking, really.
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:36 am

I've never rented portapotties before. I am trying to convince the hubby to paint the house and reseal the deck.

I don't know anyone in my life who behaves the way GB does.

Is that particular portapotty up for sale?
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:06 am

Hi all,

It's been a while since I posted, but I have been keeping up with this thread, and I have to say that this evening I finally reached critical mass.

Sources, mystery spies, etc etc etc. I've watched how quickly the particularly nasty Coachella rumors have morphed into quite the monster.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, yes, but, since no one that I know of in this forum actually saw GB do the brunette in the porta pottie in person, and since no one that I know of in this forum actually knows the man as more than someone they met once, or got an autograph from etc. (and feel free to correct me here if I am wrong) I cannot just sit back and remain silent while the last vestiges of a man's reputation are shredded right here in this thread. All of these claims are unsubstantiated rumors, hearsay and innuendo. In this era of the ubiquitous video cell phone, how is it that there are NO photos of GB actually entering the porta pottie with said brunette, or videos of him drunk and sloppy at Coachella? In all the posted photos that I've seen he doesn't look even tipsy. The man has claimed sobriety for years. So he gets hot and sweaty when he is out at a nightclub, and slurs.There are many possible reasons for this besides drinking. A. GB has an accent B. he has a lisp C. he tends to slur when he's speaking quickly D. he has a hearing defect which effects a person's level of volume and articulation?
Also, while I'm on this particular angle, has anyone here heard of dry drunk syndrome? This is behavior that sometimes effects recovering alcoholics throughout their entire lives. I.E. when a recovering alcoholic is around people who are drinking, even though they themselves are not, it has been shown that they will sometimes emulate the behavior of those who actually are intoxicated. It is possible that GB is still clean and sober.

I cannot help but wonder why some people here are so ready to believe that GB, or anyone would stoop to the level of even some of the things that he’s being accused of? If someone would explain that to me I would really appreciate it.
Has GB personally wronged or hurt someone in this forum, and I’ve just missed it in reading through topic postings and threads? Please let me know.

I do not buy into the thinking that when someone aims for stardom, then they must accept that their lives will no longer be their own; that they somehow become public property with every move up for scrutiny. After all, it never stays in the realm of observation alone.
Someone always inevitably feels compelled to throw the first stone eventually.

How do you know that those who sit behind their safe computer keyboards are not just spinning the nastiest crap that they can for the sake of winning the "down and dirtiest" rumor mill of the week award? Why are their sources always anonymous? Why is it always "someone close to the actor"? A nameless, faceless entity that manages to catch
someone doing the nastiest thing you can think of. And how is anyone supposed to stop it from happening? Pull a George Clooney and move to Italy to avoid the Hollywood vultures? Stop living their lives with freedom, because someone might decide to twist things to suit their own agenda?

Although I have more than enough reasons to be cynical and jaded, I believe it is
better to give everyone the chance to show their true colors. Hollywood is the land of smoke and mirrors. Until I see the proof, it’s nothing but a bad game of whisper down the lane, or in this case, Hollywood Blvd.

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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:28 am

Tabloids spin things to sell stories to the highest bidder, and I think most if not everyone on this forum is aware of that. No one is saying they believe everything that is written, and I think more than one of us has stated that - not only on the forum, but in this thread itself.

That being said, there's a old saying - "where there's smoke, there's fire". Why is it 90% of celebrities out there aren't getting the same kind of PR as Gerry? The only celebrities out there who seem to be getting these sorts of stories printed about them are the likes of Lindsay Lohan (aka "hot mess"). If Gerry or any other man wants to go into a porta potty with a woman, more power to him/them. But don't expect people not to talk about it.

Truth be told, the tabloids are printing these stories about Gerry, not because of some "personal wrongdoing or agenda" (again, tabloids only want to sell stories), but because he and/or his PR team make him an easy target.

Personally, I'm tired of reading about these antics. Not because it personally upsets me in any way, but because it became boring. While Gerry's peers such as Michael Fassbender and Tom Hardy are receiving rave reviews about their work, Gerry's PR consists mainly of hookups with Desperate Housewives and (purportedly) porta potty hookups.

And no, I'm not saying that to tarnish his reputation (he doesn't need me or any forum to do that), or any sort of personal agenda (I have nothing against the man personally) - but because it's the harsh truth.
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:30 am

Gerry himself made the "smoke/fire" comment once when asked if some sort of gossip about him was true. You wouldn't think there would be so MUCH of this kind of "gossip" if there wasn't a reason for it to have started to begin with. Just my two cents............
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:51 am

I don't give a flip whether GB is a saint or a sinner. Most of the things about him that make "news" are disgusting behavior. And when he goes somewhere and doesn't misbehave, "people" wonder why. He has been photographed and videoed doing some ugly things, most likely not everything bad he's done - that would take a Truman-like lifestyle. Given his priors, it's not unbelieveable that he would do other disgusting things.

I have tried to start rumors. They never work.
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:03 am

Very well said everyone!
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:46 pm

Dani Blue wrote:
How do you know that those who sit behind their safe computer keyboards are not just spinning the nastiest crap that they can for the sake of winning the "down and dirtiest" rumor mill of the week award? Why are their sources always anonymous? Why is it always "someone close to the actor"? A nameless, faceless entity that manages to catch
someone doing the nastiest thing you can think of.

Well said, Dani! I totally understand where you are coming from, and my dismay in these tabloid reports tends to go along these lines too. There are limited reports (and the ones that seem to be may not be first hand) of Gerry actually being seen going into a single port-a-potty with a woman. Most of them are speculating and spinning based on the report that he went with a lady to the port-a-potties, as in plural. Did anyone actually see them go into the same one? Maybe they were dancing and one of them had to take a bathroom break, and they just went over to the bathrooms at the same time but went in separate ones. Who knows? But seriously, the guy's not perfect, but do we really think he screwed or got a a bj from a girl in a nasty festival port-a-potty filled with the crap of a whole festival full of people? If he wanted to hook up with her later, he'd be more likely just to get her digits.

Having said all that, does the guy spend way too much time going after women half his age and staying out all night like a frat boy? Yes. Is he starting to look like a sad old guy who won't grow up? Yes.

And I also understand the comments of "where there's smoke there's fire". I guess I can understand both sides. I'm willing to give him the benefit of assuming this story might not be true. But I'm also considering the possibility that it could be true or, if not this story, others he's been referenced in are true (or more like partially true w/ an exaggerated tabloid or public gossip spin). I get the reasoning that this could have happened. There're only so many stories you can hear without pausing to just say, I wonder...maybe...

It may also be that a lot of these stories are either false or exaggerated, but the problem lies in that he puts himself in environments where rumors will start even if he didn't actually do what they say he did or what they speculate that he did. I think that's his biggest problem. He needs to grow up, act like the grown man that he is, and stop playing in the kiddie pool. That wouldn't make him old, undesirable, or washed up (as he seems like he might be worried about).

It would just make him an adult, a grown man. And to me that would be far sexier than a guy hitting on 20-somethings and staying out to the wee hours so often.
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:53 pm

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Why is it 90% of celebrities out there aren't getting the same kind of PR as Gerry?

Dani, DK hit the nail on the head with that statement. Probably there are other celebrities who are doing possibly even nastier things than GB is accused of doing. But we are not hearing about it because their PR teams are great at covering their behinds, spinning it, or creating a diversion. Why is Gerry's PR team not going apeshit crazy over this disgusting allegation about the porta-potty. Is there something worse they are trying to hide so they let this slide? I am not even going to speculate.

The tabloids do go over the line but when they go too far over the line, there are lawsuits, etc... For those who don't wear rose-colored glasses when it comes to GB, we are disgusted by the insinuation that he would do this. If we, who are members of a forum, are disgusted, why is he or his own PR team not? Why are they not asking for a retraction or defending him?

And there are LOTS of rumors that he is gay or bisexual. I don't know if he is or not. Hollywood claims to be liberal and open but they keep their actors in the closet. I think it's wrong because no one should be ashamed of who they are. If GB came out as gay or even bi, do you think many of his female fans will continue to follow him? Many, not all, follow him because of the fantasy that he is their romantic superhero. If he is gay, that will kill the fantasy. It makes sense to create this "reason" as to why he won't settle down--he's a crude womanizer--and it stops the gay rumors. And his ardent followers can label him as misunderstood and lost and in need of a good woman to save him.

Also, Gerry hasn't come out with an performance that has won him a lot of accolades recently. He may have done fantastic work in his last two films but there were no award nominations. I didn't see the last two so I don't know if they were great or not, btw.

I think there is some good in this guy. He seems to be loyal to his friends. He has shown glimmers of being a better than average actor. I have been here two years and many on this board have been here much longer. We have seen and and scratched our heads and rooted for him to succeed, change his ways, only to be sorely disappointed. I have the same good wishes for him as I do for everyone--I wish him happiness no matter where that path takes him. And if he is putting out great movies, I will be there to applaud his performances.

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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:03 am

No Kayanne, YOU hit it on the head, articulately and concisely.

You never cease to impress me. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:18 am

And the next GB movie to hit the theaters will be...

Movie 43

Such dignity. Such artistry. Such intelligence. Such elegance. Such brilliance. Such sensitivi

*dying from suffocation from laughing too hard
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:00 pm

Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:44 pm

*wacks Julie EXTRA hard on her back*
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:29 pm

Did anybody see Topher Grace on Anderson Cooper's show? According to him, most of the 'razzi coverage in Hollywood is contrived and if you want to live a private life, you can. Those celebs that are constantly in the rags and tabloids are there because they WANT to be. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Oh, and Helena told me over on FB to tell everyone "hello" and that she sends her love!
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:52 pm

Tell Helena "Hi!" and to tell her hand to get well.

I remember one time David Letterman had George W. Bush as a guest during his presidential campaign. Letterman asked Bush if he cared about what he (DW) said about him (GWB) on the show. Bush said he didn't care what he said about him, as long as he said his name.

There is value in keeping your name in the front of people's minds and on their tongues as a form of advertisement. I guess GButler couldn't get good PR so he's settling for bad PR to get any PR at all. That's pretty sad, in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:34 pm

I would think that a little bit of bad PR would be ok because, as you said....at least your name is out there. But when MOST of it is making you look like a self absorbed jerk.....I would think that it would be harmful in the long run.
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:30 am

Well, better a self-absorbed jerk than a racist pig (think Mel Gibson).
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PostSubject: Re: Celebitchy - Gerard Butler totally hooked up with a random brunette in a Coachella Porta-potty    Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:25 am

Or someone who beats on women and/or children.
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